
Picking a host for your website is probably one of the most important things you’ll ever do. And fate forbid that host goes down, you’ll need all the support you can get. Actually, all you really need is somebody that is willing to investigate the issue in a timely manner, and timely is the category that Leaseweb’s technical support fits least in to.
Yesterday (Monday, 25th July ’08) the server stopped responding. I know I paid my bill because I have a receipt, so surely they haven’t cut it off?! Panic set in, there were people trying to access the server, I have two business clients relying on that server – one for the website, okay so that isn’t too bad, and the other for email! Lucky for me it’s the end of the working day, except – oh no, Leaseweb’s technical support is closed. They’re not in my time zone either, of course they can’t be blamed for that, it was my choice to rent a server outside of my country after all.
I power cycled the server, but still after five minutes of waiting my ka-billions of pings received no word from the server. At this stage just about every scenario is running through my head – the kind of scenarios where you imagine all of your work being swallowed by quick sand. I actually almost had a panic attack, and promptly (and I hasten to add unfairly) bit my wife’s head off. I didn’t realise that the stress of a server going down could cause me to feel this way. And now, I’m in their hands.
I email Support to tell them my server is inaccessible… I wait, and wait… and I wait some more. But no reply, not for Steve. The one waiting. The one literally peeing his pants because he needs that server to come back online. And finally, more than four hours later, I receive a reply! Quote:
Could you send us the login credentials to check this?
What? Are you kidding me? I thought they’d have this stuff logged! They sent me the password in the first place! And hold on, if they need the login credentials, the server must be up and running right? Well, I emailed them the password to the root account (which they defined originally anyway) and sat patiently on a reply. At this point you’d think they’d prioritise your ticket given your server is entirely inaccessible and they should ultimately be liable for issues that are their fault. But even after sitting up half the night, a reply seemed as likely to arrive as the real life postman delivering mail at three in the morning.
I decided to try to sleep – luckily, a kind gentleman at webhostingtalk.com offered some hosting services to me for free. I only really needed the mail server, and that was a relief. I couldn’t thank him enough.
I awoke at gone 9AM, to find an email I had just recently received. Looks like the server had been online since approximately 8.45AM. Good timing on my part, bad response time on theirs. But the response time is nothing in comparison to the response.
Dear costumer,
After replacing the UTP cable your server is back online.
Don’t hesitate to contact us if you have any further questions.
Kind regards,
*** ***** ******
LeaseWeb – Hardware Support
You have got to be kidding me. I can forgive the bad spelling and grammar, but that isn’t the issue here. We all know there will be language barriers when we’re working with people in another country. But to report that the server’s network cable was the cause of all this trouble – and to rub it in I had to wait more than 24 hours for the network cable to be replaced? The server, hosted in a datacenter, had a faulty network cable? Now, that is a hard one to swallow. I’ve never had to replace a network cable unless it has been interfered with, and unless Leaseweb have their network cables trailing to the floors of the datacenter I just don’t see how they could possibly be damaged. But more troubling to me is the fact that the server obviously wasn’t running during the time I couldn’t access it because my main site’s scheduled task didn’t log its work. Any other time where the server has remained live but inaccessible to the net I have had proof that this task has continued processing. I’m not suggesting Leaseweb are liars, but wait, actually, I am. But not officially, I don’t want to be sued, I just feel it’s a bit conspicuous.
There are definitely unanswered questions that, to be honest with you, I just cannot be bothered to ask because I have no faith in their support system or honesty. The first issue I had with this server was a disk crash, to which they did not apologise or offer me a refund, or any other kind of compensation. Their motto was “shit happens” – not in those words, but you catch the drift. I feel as though I had SUCKER written across my forehead.
A big downside to this is that I’m scared to use services in other countries now, I’ve almost become prejudist because of this experience. I’m sure that not all Dutch hosting services are like this, but I was hestitant to go outside of the UK in the first place, you can only imagine how I feel now.
I cannot recommend Leaseweb for a mission critical application. If your server going down equals loss of business (which presumably it would if you’re willing to fork out the money for a dedicated server in the first place), I recommend against renting a server with them with all my heart. I will be looking for a new host as of now, and this time I’m going to get one in my own country – I feel as though I have more leverage being that to sue them I don’t have to cross the border.
If you’re going to be looking for a host, check out www.webhostingtalk.com to get the low down on all the providers.
Has anybody else had an experience, good or bad? Let me and any other readers know by leaving a comment.
UPDATE: I am no longer a Leaseweb customer – after another crash, I decided it was time to vacate their data centre. I am now a member of Liquidweb, a US hosting company with a good reputation, and their service has been amazing. I can’t recommend them enough; stay tuned for a review.
bad bad bad,, do not let their cheap prices attract you, you basically get what you pay for,, their support useless, the website was down for 3 weeks, and whenever i contacted them, no reply !!! i had to go to their sales team, and they kept saying ” someone working on it” and never got it back online, after 5 weeks wait, i had to switch,,,
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Leaseweb is one of the worst providers I have encountered. Their service is indeed disgusting. I would not recommend them to anyone. For sure do not let their prices fool you.
Big company with lots of resources, but they SUCK!!! Someone is doing something wrong there, not that I will be there to see a change as I have found smaller providers exceeding their service with ease.
“What? Are you kidding me? I thought they’d have this stuff logged! They sent me the password in the first place!”
Dude..
Didnt you read that email?
Leaseweb clearly states you should change the passwords ASAP.
Are you running such insecure servers that you do not change the passwords (ever?!?!?)
Or should leaseweb engineers guess when your password cycle has occured or not..
You’re quite right, I should change the password. However, the problem here doesn’t come down to hacking. It’s incredibly irritating to be sent a request for the password to the machine days later – to find that they’ve done absolutely NOTHING to resolve the problem can only make a person more aggrivated.
Leaseweb is a good website, and a good server host.
It could have been a coincidence that the utp cables broke. And they fixed it instantly.
They are not a good host. If it is a ‘coincidence’, then I assure anyone using LeaseWeb that they will be coincidentally screwed at some point in their coincidental life. Ethernet cables don’t just ‘break’, and they didn’t fix it ‘instantly’.
Leaseweb is totally shit!!!! I promise!! their support sucks ,and never give me a whole product.
I have to ticket/livechat/email them again and again ask for the server information because they only give me a IP address and said “the VPS is ready”…… finally they didn’t response me anymore ,is that a cheater??
by the way, I bought their 10 domain Plesk Panel, then found I could just use 1 domain! they are fraud, shared one plesk to 10 client’s to save their money!!!
Yes, I can also confirm that their support is literally as bad as described in this horror story. We’ve been through a similar issue with them, and now that our server is down again I started looking for what others are saying about Leaseweb. Ours was once Netdirekt based in Frankfurt Germany, now it somehow became LeaseWeb… We’re changing these fuckers.
Sorry to hear of your woes Denis!
Im looking for cheap dedicate dserver with unlimited 100mbit.what you can suggest me ? maybe leaseweb ? My budget is max $250/month. PLease recommend any cheap dedicated
LiquidWeb.
You sound like a whiner dude. Way too many words for a minor outage.
Trust me, in IT stuff “just breaks” all the time. Unless you pay them to provide redundancy for your website, that responsibility falls on you. Why not host in two locations and purchase a DNS based load balancing service to keep it alive if your content requires that level of uptime.
Less drama may earn you more empathy.
Haha, yes, I must be a whiner. The whole point of this email is to inform others to NOT give any money to this company.
Network cables don’t “just break”. Especially not in dedicated data centers. What? Are there cats walking around chewing on the wires? Are the cables made of hair?
Servers also don’t overheat if there is sufficient cooling and they are maintained correctly.
I’m not sure why you think I should trust you, given that I don’t know you, and you clearly expect nothing from a service you’re paying money for.
The idea that I should have to purchase a ‘DNS based load balancing service’ to keep my site alive is ludicrous. The server died TWICE, this isn’t just a random failuire. It’s a bad level of service, as many other reviews of LeaseWeb will tell you.
And to note, since moving to LiquidWeb back in 2008, I have been trouble free. And their support team answers me within 30 minutes. Booyah!
Leaseweb is Horrible. We ordered up a dedicated server this month through LeaseWeb. The mistakes were one after the other. It took them almost 5 days to set our dedi up, First Mistake they gave us the wrong hard drive. 2nd Mistake they again gave us the wrong hard drive. 3rd mistake was again the same as 1 and 2. How hard could it be for these guys to follow the instructions on our order. Finally 2 weeks later when we were transferring our data from our previous server company we ran out of disk space guess what they again installed the wrong server..
They have the worse customer service. It seems as though there Ticket system is a failure. I have all the messages saved very sad. The left doesn’t know what the right is doing at LeaseWeb.